Meeting at National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association

Met with Lou Saccoccio (CEO) and Erin Carlson (Snr Director, Education and Training).

Excellent discussion regarding approaches taken to collaboration and partnership against fraud in US health care.

NHCAA are a small (12 FTEs) government and industry funded group (85 members) established in 1985 that supports a range of collaborative and educational programs including certification of fraud investigators – Accredited Health Care Fraud Investigator (AHFI) and Annual Training Conference.

Bupa are involved, mostly out of UK but also Australia (Michael Douman).

Ray Collins is very active in the space.

  • SIRIS is an information sharing/case management data base hosted by LexisNexis – contract regarding use to be forwarded. Sharing this information is legal provided it is performed according to strict guidelines and relates specifically to fraud investigation. It cannot be a fishing exercise. Cases must be built on own information, but having the database allows investigators to follow up with other investigators looking at a specific concern.
  • A number of firms provide a recoveries service offering – Verisk, Emdeon, LexisNexis – the standard charge is 30% commission on recoveries made.
  • Case discussion roundtable meetings support information sharing around specific cases.
  • Discussed the 7:1 ROI enjoyed by federal programs – much of this is returned by cases focused on recovering monies from “Pharmaceutical Off-label Marketing Fraud” and “Pharmaceutical Best Pricing Fraud” which then boosts overall figures.
  • Other approaches include cross-matching for recently deceased providers (phantom providers) who continue to bill. When this practice becomes endemic in a region, moratoria are established that prevent new providers being registered in that region.
  • Also look at “high cost pharmacies”, perform site visits and follow up on outliers on risk scoring.
  • MITRE Corporation (originally a military technology R&D organisation akin to RAND) are now collaborating with CMS in a program called CMS Alliance to Modernize Healthcare. Thier operating model involves partnership with government agencies on a sole source basis. IP can be captured by MITRE and then commercialised as required.
  • All Claims Pooling is another approach using trusted third parties – Verisk, Emdeon and LexisNexis.
  • Federally-granted Recovery Audit Contracts see third parties (e.g. Performant) chase potential recoveries from providers – not appreciated by providers.
  • Palantir had previously engaged with NHCAA but had since withdrawn. They have a contract with Aetna, but no one else in health was mentioned. Government entities tended to work solely with MITRE.
  • NHCAA saw much opportunity to extend scope from fraud to low value care – clinical special investigation units are involved in this work, typically headed by MDs and they meet at the annual conference.
  • Suggested engaging with CMS Head Dr Shantanu Agrawal who I am meeting on Wednesday.

Actions

  • Erin: refer me to Allanna Lovell at MITRE for a meeting
  • Erin: invite to anti-fraud conference in November
  • Erin: share guidelines for intelligence sharing

Linked and  attached are presentations by Shantanu Agrawal  and his staff on the CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services) scoring system they are using, as well as their latest anti-fraud initiatives.

 

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